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Wow, it's three. Can you
believe it? Rich casting over here in
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Atlanta in our Global Podcasts Studios headquarters, and we've got the man of the
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hour, Dwayne Hart. I'm gonna
call you Mr Cybersecurity or Mayor of Cybersecurity
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or the Governor of the President.
But this guy wears lots of hats in
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this industry, and we've got some
great ground to cover what we had a
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phenomenal twenty two. I hope you
listen to that wrap up episode what happened
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in two? But happy New Year
man, welcome Dwayne to Can you believe
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It's Yes, I can believe its
three. There was a lot of success
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in two. What the cyberge gonna
mindset? But but in three we're gonna
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take it to the next level because
as technology grows, the podcast has to
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grow as well. Exactly want to
take it to the next level? Yeah,
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So again, Um, anything piques
your interest during this show, just
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check out Dwayne Heart dot com.
Allow it to always give the call to
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accent the opening the show because as
a podcast listeners, UM sometimes that I'll
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make it in the show where I'm
waiting to find out how how do I
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reach this dude? Right? So
um. But speaking of Dwayne Hart so
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UM, he's our guests here in
the studio. UM, and we just
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can't believe it's got some exciting news
to announce some announcements. But first let's
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pick back up where we left off
our last episode last year. We were
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talking about in the last episode about
cybercrime, why it's growing, and why
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criminals are succeeding UM, and we
talked about the analogy of UH. We
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think about cybercrime as something completely outside
the box, but it's really basic business
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one oh one, right, what
you're doing in business. These guys and
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gals are doing in quote air quotes
their business, which is the business of
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trying to hack and make a profit
off of you, your industry or you
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as an individual. So the six
top picks UH real quick and bullet point.
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In our last episode, we talked
about number one, how they're targeting
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people and finding the weakest link.
They're doing their homework, much like in
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business, you've got to find your
customers, research them. And then finally
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we talked about the numbers game.
So much like in business, it's a
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matter of how many phone calls or
emails you're gonna send. That's what they're
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doing so uh. Today, in
the second part of this series, we're
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gonna talk about um the remaining three
points, which are scams keep evolving.
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Uh. Patients pays off in criminal
operating from anywhere. So let's talk about
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scams much like a business. So
technology advances, so in cybersecurity, you
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know, they're looking at new opportunities
for um, you know, ways to
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scam. So what are some examples
of um, uh you know, techniques
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they use in terms of scams.
What are some uh, you know,
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schemes and that kind of thing.
Okay, Now everyone is all custom tottle
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emails that they get and stayed and
that that somebody has a check and um
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that that they're not from the US, and there's a million dollars in the
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bank account that they're trying to get
rid of. So so I think the
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citizens and the people have gotten smarter
and not to engage into that scap.
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Here goes another part of the scams
that are happening is that people need assets
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to your personal information, like your
banking account. All right, So you
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get a Bogos web link and you
go up there and and if you're told
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that you need to change your password, you need to update your information.
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Right, then you put the information
in the Buggles website and it says in
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a repository somewhere where someone can have
someone can carry out a cyber cyber attack.
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Now, now, the other type
of schemes out there too, is
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that if you are you are using
online um site the shop okay, and
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you know it sounds like a really
good deal, and it's usually have from
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because your profile. You know,
someone profiles you and learns that you like
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a certain pair of shoes and something
like that, and so they send your
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email and and so you go to
this website, and and you think it's
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a deal, right, and it's
kind of not a not a deal.
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It's really a honeypot that you've fallen
into, you know, which is a
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criminal honey pot. I always like
to think that the type of crimes that
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are curring mostly targeted for personal or
financial game. So, you know,
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without going into deep and talking about
all the different type of crimes out there,
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just think about all the ways that
someone can steal your money. Just
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think about all the ways someone can
gain your personal information. And usually it
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happens because either a ransomware attack or
somebody go to a bogus website. I
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think that now citizens are probably over
the fact of letting their laptops stay open
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right in a public setting or even
in their office. Right. Yes,
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WiFi, WiFi settings and Starbucks.
You know, they are some other features
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as for ads, say passwords,
um, you know, for password managers
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using Google and so forth. That's
I think that's an that sent in like
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an enclosed environment and um, you
know it's optional, but you know you
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still have to be careful about that. Yeah, I'm thinking two things for
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the new year. Right, So, um, often you know, when
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you're engaging with a uh, some
type of organization, you know, it's
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likely that they can say, hey, we're updating our new policies and procedure
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for for the new year three right, and so you need to update your
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you know, agreed to these terms. A lot of those are legitimate.
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But that's another opportunity for that that
window that cyber hacker can you know,
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access for information. And then um, and then secondly, they're as excited
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about the new year as well,
a new I don't know if you saw
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this. This is a recent article. I thought this was you know,
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fascinating in a kind of a crazy
kind of sense. But talking about how
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um, these bad actors have grown
in boldness innovation. Talk about touch screens,
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so um they've actually there's another hack
for cyberski. The experts have even
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seen what appears what on your digital
touch screen laptop, what appears like a
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human hair follicle they're gonna swipe,
or a flea or dust particle that you
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want to clean your screen with.
They actually create that, um like on
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a website that looks like there's a
piece of hair on your screen, see
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what I'm saying, and you swipe
to get that that um, that hair
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off your screen, and it downloads
malware. That's pretty wild, right,
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talk about innovation, I mean yeah, yeah, that part of innovation.
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But you know there's something that I
always like to say, is that that
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you just have to be careful.
Okay, spice about using different difference technology.
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Now, maybe turn off your computer
when you're cleaning your screen, you
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know. Start there. Well,
well, that's some scams going around,
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like the imposta scam. Okay,
uh, you know it's just you know,
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it's faking to be a femine member
so that you can wire money,
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right all right, you know,
if you are a parent and you get
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this little text metchage or let's say
an email your college kid is in trouble.
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College kids in trouble, call your
kid right first before you start,
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right, yeah, yeah, yeah, but you know that's that's what she
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would occur. You know, not
only that, it's another one called you've
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won scams. Right, okay,
you just want a million dollars. You
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need to switch information in here because
you went to the concert and your ticket
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was drawing as a potential winner or
something like that. Right, and um,
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you know the health healthcare scams as
well too. Okay, you know,
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well you need to report to your
doctor's office. You need to go
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to this website. You need to
put this information in. Um if you
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reply back which are so security number, then then you know we can update
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your record. Does that this one? Oh? I got another one too.
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Tech support scams. Now those other
ones that you have to watch out
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because someone caused you and state that
you have a problem with your laptop that
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has not been identified and so they're
calling from HP tech support and usually with
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tech support they want remote access to
the laptop so to get your road assets.
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So you're giving a foul link that
is actually emailed to you and if
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you hit the file link, then
it automatically creates a connection with the other
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person on the other end, which
is the tech support person. And yeah,
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okay, so you so you have
to be careful about that. That's
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got to be probably almost the worst, right, that's the holy grail because
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literally at that point you might as
well just handed over your computer and your
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credit cards and everything to the right
because what people have stored access as the
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computer. Basically it's like just handing
them your computer with all of your passwords.
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Um, okay, so we got
two more items to cover. We
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want to jump to three. So
let's talk about Um, you know,
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it's again business one oh one practice
and patients pays off. Right. These
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guys are persistent, yes, or
yes they are. They are persistent because
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eventually, out of ten thousand people, you're gonna find one weakness. You're
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gonna find one person that's gonna follow
to pray and to fall into track.
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And that's all you need, especially
if there as an organization. And let's
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say if your user base is about
three thousand people, right, and you
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have a very large footprint of that
three thousand, imagine if one person you're
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tricked into giving assets to a hacker
to the system. See, that's all
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it takes. So if they're persistent
enough, eventually they're gonna find one person.
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But the way you counter that is
to have that con is to have
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that consistent and continuous cybersecurity engagement where
you are making employees aware of their surroundings
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and preventing those types of cyber texts
from occurrent. Likewise, the larger your
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I T infrastructure, the more problems
you're gonna have, all right, and
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it becomes increasing harder because that's a
lot of cyber attacks that happen every day,
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but we don't know about them because
companies don't publicize that all the time.
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Many many times these breaches take can
take weeks to be discovered. So
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meanwhile, they're gleaning all your information
and talk about patients. A lot of
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times they'll access your information, but
they don't leverage it immediately, right or
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it's kind of a trickle effect,
right, So they was drawing small amounts
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just to make sure everything's legit,
and then out of nowhere proof you know,
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it's they're all in right. Well, you know what, because you
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know, the longer you reside on
the system. It makes it seem like
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that you are legitimate, right,
so so so on this obersecurity industry,
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there's something called rogue devices. Right. These are deemed as assets that just
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pop upon enterprise and you've never seen
before. And imagine the enterprise that has
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about three hundred thousand assets. Right, And if you're a threat intelligent platform
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or if you're artificial intelligent platform and
you're talking, people have not identified that
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asset and it sists there for three
weeks. Well, you know, a
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person that works into threat monitoring and
pretty much in it's cured operations center may
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say, okay, well it's been
on the network for three weeks, and
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they may assume that it's okay,
right, yeah, because it's been adapted
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as the norm motor. Yes,
yes, yes, it has become a
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part of the infrascription. Now all
right, so it's sitting there and oh
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wow, yes, yes, yeah, so it is legit. But this
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is why, this is why I've
always thought of that that when someone has
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that human firewall concept, they're gonna
investigate the information. Okay, you just
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don't look at an indicator and say
that it's right or wrong. Now,
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this is part of the situational awareness
and I and I always talk about the
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cyber senses and the environmental knowledge and
knowing your surroundings because if you don't know
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your surroundings and cybersecurity, you can't
identify what's right or wrong. Yeah,
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yeah, you don't know, um
at if this is a good analogy,
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But kind of like what they're talking
about is kind of this this drip approach
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where it's small and incremental. So
maybe especially in a large organization, they're
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taking out relatively small withdrawals or small
hacks, right, and it's not gonna
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become a blip on the radar,
right, because they're they're balancing so many
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numbers. It's almost like, I
don't know if this is a good analogy,
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but imagine you have a medium or
small somewhat boat, right, and
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you have a handful of people in
there, and they start adding one person
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at a time doesn't say like a
big deal, but as to add more
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people, all of a sudden,
the boat's gonna sink. But they don't
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attack it with a torpedo, right. Because again, if if you got
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if your entire system was hacked,
you shut everything down, you go into
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insurance mode, and you go into
recovery mode. But if it happens over
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weeks, months, or even years, it's too late at some point.
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Right, well, well, just
going back to my theory there, when
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you when you look at these assets
and people that on a system for about
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three weeks, stan, see,
they become a part of the environment,
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which is the first stage. Right, let me build my profile like I'm
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legitimate, and then after that,
let me see if I can get a
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dollar. If you find a thousand
people and you take out a dollar,
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right, then you move on and
you say, okay, then I'm gonna
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find fifty people and I'm gonna get
ten cents out of the account, or
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even ten dollars. For a longer
organization, nobody's gonna It's more of an
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annoyance to like figure out where is
that ten dollars membership thing I signed up
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for or whatever. Yeah, if
you got a bank account with what about
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two million dollars, I mean,
are you trying you know that ten cents
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they came out of your account?
Yeah? Yeah. But but see,
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the idea is that the presence if
you are consistently engaged and if you look
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legitimate, and if you just draw
smaller amounts over a particular time and it
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makes it looks like it's legit.
And then one day you decided to greedy,
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right right, yeah, okay,
you want to hit the lottery,
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and that's when the major disruptions happened. And when investigation happens, it funds
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out that somebody was on the asset
printed much day, was on the network
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for three weeks and it was never
identified. And especially if it goes on
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for that period of a year or
there accounting year. In theory, once
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it's off the books, they're not
going to revisit you know, last year's
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once they file those taxes and closed
the books on that year, that hundred
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thousand that's you know the hackers got
access to. They're not gonna revisit that,
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right because they've kind of closed the
books and move on, right,
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Um, speaking of moving on,
so we have one more topic before we
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jump into and what's happening again.
You're listening to Rich Casting over here alongside
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Dayne Hart in the Global Podcast Studios
and we're talking all things hybersecurity. UH.
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For these topics and more, check
out Dwayne heart dot COM's our last
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topic, Dwayne about criminals and cyber
crime and why they're succeeding is criminals can
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operate from anywhere, right They've so, so I think that most of the
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communities is definitely aware of the remote
workforce. Okay, So you know,
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with the remote workforce, it has
opened up um different type of attack vectors.
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Okay, when you think of an
attack vectors, uh, you know
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that just saying that the interest into
a network has has changed, not so
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much looking at all of the all
of the devices that you have, okay,
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but just going and looking at the
footprint of all the different assets that
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you have, okay, because the
gateway is not open, you know.
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So, so when you have a
remote workforce, you have a dispersed group
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of people that are located in different
regions of the US, and and so
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what happens is that you have to
ensure that that their wife, I and
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UM, that that communication channel channel
is secure. But but most organizations are
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used on VPN, a virtual private
network anyway is to kind of remediate that
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concern. But but if you think
about actors, they can go operating in
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the middle of the ocean. Yeah, I mean as long as they have
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however WiFi something like that, they
can they can be in a basement.
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You know, they can be in
a cave. You know, they don't
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have to be down the street,
oh no, or in your building.
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They can virtually be anywhere at any
time. And uh. And they've been
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operating mostly in that in that space
for for many many years. It's relatively
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new to most of the workforce.
But now I think it should be more
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in your radar. If you can
work from anywhere for your job, for
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your business, they can do the
same, right, right, right.
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I've always brought into discussion and cybersecuted
mindset when I talked about the hackers hack
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is that hackers operated in sales.
A sale is a secret location and they
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share information. Right. They can
be in a basement, they can be
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you know, I hate to say
it is they can be they can be
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under Walmart somewhere. You know,
I don't know if that's true. And
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now I'm just bringing up they can
discussion. They can be an old building
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somewhere and and kara a cyber attack. Right. They can be in a
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foreign country where you're not gonna be
able to track them. You know,
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they keep changing their IP addresses and
so forth. So um so great great
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topics along this line. I think
um uh, I think this will kind
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of summarize much of what we talked
about is you should almost have this bumper
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sticker on or on your laptop,
probably a post it note, if not
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some type of permanent on your post
think before you click. Yeah, right,
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that's that would that would kind of
like that would prevent probably upwards of
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your challenges, um, the headaches
he might have as a result of a
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hacker. Well, what I think
that I think the I think when people
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become more so accustomed to thinking,
it becomes first nature. All right.
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It's it's it's something that is part
of you every day. There's just like
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people get up and eat every day, right right, Well, well,
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to think before you click would be
you know, at first nature to you,
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all right, so you automatically know
not to click on that. See,
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it's like a growing process, you
know, and and and just thinking
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about how their mindset operates. Because
I will say that that if a reader
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engages into the cybergecuate of mindset,
it becomes part of you as you start
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off talking about the cyber security culture
and then moving on to a situation wherein
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it's and looking at risk bace thinking
and then then it talks about transforming your
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mindset. And then the last piece
is you put sobersecurity and action and what
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you need to do. All of
this becomes part of a person and then
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they can think proactly about how they
engage cybersecurity. Because I've had people that
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have inboxed me on LinkedIn and said, you know you've you made it very
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simple to understand how cybersecurity offers.
I mean, but if you're unaware,
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as we all are at some point
in our life. As a kid,
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you're unaware how to tie your shoe
right. But once you learn that,
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you don't think, uh, you
just do it right. You don't think
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about what uh string goes over the
right hand the left hand, and how
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you're tying the knot right. Driving
a car, I mean, it's kind
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of crazy. We've all been in
that situation where you drive home and your
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mind is thinking elsewhere and you just
you're on an autopilot and you just get
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home, get to your destination right. So you should have that mind repetition
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to putting in the reps, as
they say, right for um and uh,
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what's great about this new year?
In three? This is a great
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point um to kind of revisit,
reevaluate. Um, uh, what may
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have happened in your business where hackers
or there was a cyber issue. But
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more importantly to kind of you know, check in with Dwayne Hart. Go
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to the website, UM, check
out the podcast, get a copy of
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the book. Whatever you need to
do, um to do some research and
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prepare for right. So this is
a good one whenever in business or in
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personal life. With all those New
Year's resolutions, one of your New Year's
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resolutions should be what to engage into
cybersecurity. I call it active involvement and
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operating cybersecurity from the front line.
Just like before someone comes through your front
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door, you go check them out. Right, Well, guess what before
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you open that door, or pretty
much before you even engage your laptop,
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then cybersecurity ship be in the front
piece of your brain sales. Time to
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refresh things and probably a good time. Maybe much like they say, like
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daylight saving, it's time to change
the battery and your smoke alarm. Um.
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The new year, at the very
least, time to change all your
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passwords, right, you know,
kind of reboot. So speaking of the
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new year, uh, kind of
a rapid fire here, just a quick
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recap of something we talked about last
episode, but it's coming up in So
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for your podcast, The Chap of
Cybersecurity Podcast, you're going into season three
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right so, UM and we're gonna
we're gonna close with a teaser about what's
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happening for book sales were um are
rocking and rolling and you can get a
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copy again at Dwayne Haart dot com. Um and I'm gonna put you to
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ten seconds. I'm gonna start the
timer right now, UM, talk to
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me in ten seconds about the book. The book itself has been doing outstanding.
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If you want to learn how to
think correctly about trying to engage obvious
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security, go out and process the
cybersecurity mindset great. And then conferences.
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You attended a number of conferences.
I'm sure you're gonna be tending some of
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those again this year. UM live
stream an UM that was a big hit
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and very interesting lunching in two.
So you're gonna be doing more of the
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lime streams for this year as well. Oh yes, I want to bring
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influential people on the live scream because
this year on the live screams is about
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the community. It's about you.
What is it that you are doing in
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the world of cybersecurity that is so
critical and that everyone wants to hear because
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I know you have a story to
tell. Maybe you maybe you can share
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some knowledge on workforce development and have
o those channel their career through the cybersecurity
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market. And maybe you're on LinkedIn
and maybe you have a hundred thousand connections
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on LinkedIn and you have a lot
of information to share for the community.
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So I would enjoy for you to
come on my podcast session so I can
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engage with you and to take cybersecurity
to the next level. Because there are
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some smart people at the end of
the world in UM, I want to
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see who they are. Yeah,
that's what's great about the livestream. Get
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to actually interact in real time,
one on one with some of your your
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audience and um you know new members
of the community, so to speak.
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But what's interesting for the podcast as
well as live stream, UM is you're
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gonna be incorporating in twenty and this
year three some industry experts as guests.
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Uh so doing someone on one interviewing
and gleaning some of their information. UH
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talk to us about Also, UM, your you just created uh you're creating
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a sizzler reel um in front of
a TV camera set experience talk to us
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in uh just a minute. Less
about that. Here's a little secret from
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the audience. When it comes to
a podcasting a live scream, I'm a
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very nervous person. And now it
may not sound that I'm nervous, but
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trust me, when I walk into
the studio and and it's lights, camera,
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actually I'm not nervous anymore. So
I figured it out when I was
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doing my reel. Okay, and
you know, the Realist designed to folk.
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It was more towards speaking because for
this year, I want to get
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involved with more speaking engagements and to
take the cybersecurity mindset concept onto the speaking
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stage, all right, because there
are a great number of people that like
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to hear a great story. And
you know, ever since I have been
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a youngster in this world, you
know, my family tells me that I
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talked too much. So I decided
to say, Okay, if I like
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to talk too much, then why
why don't I go to a stage somewhere?
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Okay, exactly? We talk.
Yeah, And that's what's exciting for
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this new year is that this has
all been building towards that, right,
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the book, the podcast, the
conferences, the livestream. What's exciting for
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this year is um UH taking the
Sizzler Rule, which we were excited to
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help participate in creating that for you
and now UM looking for speaking engagements and
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gigs. So, if you have
an organization that would like to have Dwayne
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Heart speak at your event, this
is your call to action. This is
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your invite to reach out to Dwayne
at Dwayne Heart dot com. UM just
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contact him there. UM. Whether
it's a organization, a nonprofit, whether
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it's a church, a government agency, military agency, UM, a company,
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right, UM, even some UM
social organizations communities, banks for example,
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but also UM you know, any
faith based organization. If you or
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your organization UM are concerned about cybersecurity
or misinformed or want to learn more,
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this is an opportunity to engage with
Dwayne and UH invite him out to speak
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at your event. UM. Maybe
it's your your family's Fourth of July,
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whatever it is, right, So
I'm gonna wrap things up, Dwayne and
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UH closing thoughts or UM comments you
may have for the new year. Always
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oh yes, the any of the
speaking topics I have. You can go
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to www dot Dwayne Heart dot com
and as a link call speaking, and
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uh, there's the information on the
topics that I'll be discussing, and I'm
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gonna bring up one I think that
you would like the most. Okay,
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all right, here we go.
It's called you heard it once, now
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here it again. Stop feeding the
hackers appetite. That's a good one.
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Onto onto those. I am also
doing some workshops and some seminars um pretty
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much on vulnerability management and the and
the cybersecurity um leadership, and also focusing
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on the career development career development pipeline
as well too. So so there's a
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lot of speaking engagements that actually can
occur. So you go to my web
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page, book me and you can
hear me talk on stage. He has
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very affordable speaking of fees, they're
way less than a million dollars, so
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reach reach out right, all right, Dwayne. So look forward to having
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you back in the studio, and
happy new Year to you, your family,
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um, all the people in your
life. And uh we'll see you
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next time on the show. Thank
you, m hm.
